Hoda Muthana who married ISIS fighters, now wants to return home
ROJ CAMP, Syria – Hoda Muthana is pushing a stroller in the middle of a conflict zone here and if there is a textbook example of extremism, this probably isn't it.
That's partly because of what is in Muthana's arms: Adam, her 18-month-old son. He's a cute kid. Bright brown eyes, like his mom. His tiny hooded coat is emblazoned with patterns of elephants in profile.
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The Trump Administration Believes Muthana, 24, who was born in New Jersey and grew up in Alabama, can not be reasoned and is too big a threat to the United States to return.
"They did not want to understand what happened in my life that led me to this depraved path. I didn't just wake up in the morning and decided to join the most horrendous jihadist group in history," Muthana said, speaking to USA TODAY from the camp in northern Syria where she has been detained by a US-backed Kurdish militia since last year amid the collapse of the Islamic State's self-proclaimed caliphate.
The interview took place in a small office chair with a wires protruding every which way.
Hoda Muthana holds her 18-year-old son Adam inside a refugee camp in northern Syria, on March 28, 2019. (Photo: Nadia Al Faour for USA TODAY)  Muthana snuck off to Syria in 2014 at age 19. She marr ied Islamic State, or ISIS, fighters and exhorted her fellow Americans to commit mass murder and terror attacks.
She now is at the center of a political, legal and diplomatic firestorm that carries on reaching implications for the way the U.S. confronts Americans who join extremist groups. Muthana's story is equally about hindsight, about radicalization's hidden indicators and warnings signs that can be extremely hard to detect.
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is about testing the limits of American compassion.
Muthana used to be a terrorist organization known for beheadings and other gruesome violence, which they recorded for recruitment videos. She helped circulate these videos on social media. Now she wants to return to the U.S. with Adam, whom she conceived with one of the ISIS fighters she married in Syria – and outlived
But there is a major obstacle in her way: President Donald Trump.
The president does not want to let Muthana come back to the US, even though she has expressed remorse for her actions and is willing to face the US Justice system and near-certain jail time. Trump is trying to block her return in a court case that raises constitutional questions about Americans' citizenship rights.
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Hoda Muthana in class at Hoover High School in 2011. (Photo: Liam Youngblood)
"I would like to apologize to all Muslims for what we've done, we painted such a horrifying picture of Islam to the world, it's practically unforgivable. ISIS ruined my life and me religion, "Muthana said at Roj Camp, the Kurdish-run holding facility where she is being held with about 1,500 western wives and children born to ISIS fighters.
"I don't want to think about what will come of me if I don't allow to go back home. It's bleak. I don't think I will survive," she said, as she recounted snippets of her journey from Hoover, Ala., via Turkey, to Syria's war-ravaged battlefields.
Outside, the melodious chirps and trills of birdsong could be heard and pockets of green meadows interspersed with oil fields stretched to the horizon.
"Sometimes I think if I didn't have Twitter, I wouldn't be here," Muthana said.
The young woman, her head wrapped in a scarf revealing only her brown eyes, picks up the phone and begins to speak
"Oh, we I'm doing it today? Nine o'clock? 9:11, oh. We drop the bombs at Hoover High School. Right on D Hall, the broadcasting class, because I just hated that class and I need to get revenge. 9:11. "
She then hangs up and dissolves into teenage giggles as she reaches up to pull the purple-blue scarf, a hijab-type veil at some Muslim women, from her face.
Filmed by a classmate in 2011, the video can easily be interpreted as a harmless prank by a precocious teen – Muthana's implicit punchline about the deadliest terror attacks on American soil in US history never intended to reach a broader audience.
But today, in a new context, the video, exclusively obtained by USA TODAY, offers a glimpse into the activities of a young woman who three years later would use social media to call on Muslims in the US to "go on drive-bys and play all of their blood, or get a big truck and drive all about them. Veterans, Patriot, Memorial etc Day parades."
Muthana did not address the video when interviewed in Syria.
However, Liam Youngblood, 23, who filmed it during the broadcasting class he took with Muthana at Hoover High in 2011 said "we thought it was a joke at the time but now you look back and it's kind of chilling." 19659005] "It's something that we know of is struggling with," said Youngblood, a coffee shop barista who was known as William in high school.
'We repudiate and dissociate'
Muthana's family moved to Hoover in the late 1990s from New Jersey. Sitting a few miles outside of the regional hub of Birmingham, it is a city of about 84,000 people.
Hoover is bisected by I-459, a commuter highway that corrals the Riverchase Galleria mall and Hoover High on the south side, while The Muthana's father, Ahmed Ali, came to the US at a quiet cul-de-sac and nearby community mosque on the hillside to the north. in 1990 to work as a Yemeni diplomat to the United Nations. His wife, Basma Mohamed Eshayri, already had relatives in Alabama and on the East Coast, including her father, and U.S. citizen living in Buffalo
In July 1994, with Yemen engulfed in a civil war, Ahmed Ali Muthana was discharged from his U.N. position. Realizing he and his wife could not return to Yemen, the couple applied for permanent U.S. residency, and became a naturalized citizen in 2009. Basma Eshayri's application for U.S. citizenship is still pending.
Their daughter, Hoda, was born in October 1994, in Hackensack, New Jersey, the youngest of five children. The Muthanas moved to Alabama, a part because Basma Eshayri had family there, and Ahmed found work to manage a convenience store.
Muthana was in the class of 2013 at Hoover High. A handful of Muslims attended the high school at the same time as she did, but Hoover is a majority evangelical Christian city. Deliver up to 1% of Alabamans identify as Muslims, according to the Washington, D.C.-based Pew Research Center. Nationwide, according to Pew estimates, Muslims make up just over 1% of the total U.S. population.
Muthana and her family are living at the Hoover Crescent Islamic Center. A spokeswoman for the center said her daughter attended school with Muthana. She declined further comment in accordance with the Muthana family's request.
Mixed with announcements of youth soccer, family picnics and a ladies' stretch class on the center's website are messages rejecting extremism.
At Roj Camp, Muthana now lives in one of the many tents pitched throughout the camp. Wives and children of ISIS fighters marooned here from at least 40 countries from Denmark to Russia. They are provided with basic supplies, but conditions are poor. There are no counselors or humanitarian workers on site. At night, the temperature plummets and it is hard to stay warm.
When USA visited in late March, there were scores of women in covering black niqabs and colorful hijabs walking with their children on the main dirt thoroughfare. Many of the children were dressed in ragged hand-down clothes too big for their small frames, and slippers with no socks.
While the camp's detainees have not been accused of any crimes, they are not allowed to leave unless in government – in Muthana's case, the U.S. – grants permission.
For a while, Muthana shared a tent with Shamima Begum, a British teen who left London for Syria to join ISIS at age 15. Begum's three-week-old infant died in Camp Roj in early March from a suspected combination of malnutrition and hypothermia. Two more children of Begum's birth to ISIS fighters also died in infancy from malnutrition.
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Adam, Muthana's son, suffers from chronic bronchitis. During the interview, Muthana carefully kept him away from cigarette smoke puffed by the camp's guards, and as Muthana bounced Adam on her knee, he clutched her hijab.
She described her current predicament to USA TODAY as "torture."
"I don't sleep properly, my mental state is deteriorating," Muthana said, as she sat on a plastic chair Adam in the small makeshift office at Roj Camp.
"I try to stay strong for my Adam, he's my lifeline. I don't even want to know about ISIS. She's lucky to be so young, he won't remember a thing."
'Household wasn't a happy one '
Hoda Muthana is seen in a broadcasting class at Hoover High School in Hoover, Ala ., in 2011. (Photo: Liam Youngblood)
Experts say there is no clear-cut path to radicalization for young western Muslims.
No single profile of a would-be American jihadist fully declares a willingness to travel thousands of miles to miles a war zone, even though the journey is often wrongly characterized by participants as an effort to fulfill a religious obligation.
The program on extremism at George Washington University has identified 76 Americans, 13 of them women, who traveled to Iraq and Syria to join jihadist groups since 2011. About 50 Americans attempted to do so were prevented by law enforcement, typically arrested at an airport. The average age is 28.
The three U.S. states with the highest ISIS recruitment rates – which have rapidly declined as the militant group has lost virtually all of its territory in Iraq and Syria – are California, Minnesota and Texas.
Muthana's case is relatively unique because she appears to have been radicalized online, without ever having or conspired with anyone in person, according to Seamus Hughes, a former counter-terrorist analyst at the State Department who interviewed Muthana's family after she left for Syria in 2014. "Hoda Muthana ruined my model , "said Hughes, now deputy director of the program on extremism at George Washington University. He said radicalization usually takes place in a small group with a personal connection among the individuals.
Still, while loners like Muthana are rare, they are not unheard of. John Georgelas, 34, was born to Greek-American family. He went to high school in Colorado. Friends described him as "philosophical" and "normal." He was the son of a U.S. Air Force doctor. Georgelas converted to Islam and traveled alone to Syria to fight for ISIS in 2013. His whereabouts are unknown.
Attorneys for Mohamad Khweis, a former bus driver from Alexandria, Virginia, said he came from a stable home and showed no interest in religion or extremism when in 2015 as a 27-year-old he crossed the Turkish border on his way to ISIS strongholds in Syria
After a few months, Khweis tired of ISIS group and, after escaping, was captured by US-led coalition forces in Kurdish-held territory in Iraq and sent back to the US He is serving a 20-year jail sentence for providing material support to ISIS.
For Muthana, ISIS seemed to be an escape from her cloistered life in Alabama. "My household wasn't a happy one. a lot, I got along with my siblings because my relationship with my mother was always strained, "she said. "I never went to here for advice nor comfort. We had no bond, we had no mother-daughter relationship."
Muthana's classmates remember a young woman who, like many teenagers, sometimes made dark comments or talked back, but only under her breath, and nothing serious.
These classmates said they were aware she was raised in a strict home – she wasn't allowed to have a cell phone and her friendships outside of the classroom were limited.
But they also said they saw nothing to indicate here future path.
"She was not shy about her faith but it wasn't anything you'd call extremist," said Tripp White, 24, now a graduate student at Southern Oregon University who was in several high school classes with Muthana .
White said that Muthana's religion was a part of her life, but didn't appear to be a major driving force or motivator. He said he would never have been here to join ISIS.
Will Ogburn, 24, another Hoover High classmate of Muthana's who now works as a digital television producer, said he remembers here as "kind of angry to her situation. "There were conversations I had with her that were really dark." Ogburn said he remembers Muthana was strictly limited by her family to just a few friends. Muthana's family declined to be interviewed for this story.
In a WhatsApp message sent to USA TODAY, Muthana's father, Ahmed, would say only that he repeatedly told his story. daughter not to do any media interviews because they inevitably lead to more difficulties for her family. He didn't elaborate.
Her mother won't speak of her.
Confidants of Muthana's parents say the family was shocked and appalled as the rest of when they learned their daughter had secretly joined ISIS.
"Her mother won''t speak of here," said Charles Swift, who is representing Hoda Muthana's father, Ahmed, in the family's case against the Trump administration's attempt to block her return. Her father "despises ISIS, despises his daughter," Swift said. "But she's still his daughter."
"She betrayed him and the family," Swift said. Her father "felt a great deal of regret and sorrow, but he wasn't going to leave here (in Syria) with his grandson."
Hassan Shibly, a Florida-based civil rights lawyer whom Muthana's parents enlisted to try to persuade their daughter to come home, said "this was just a girl who was unhappy with her life and was given an opportunity for an adventure." "I tried to talk sense into her that she made a horrible decision and that she needed to come back, legally, through the system. She was too brainwashed, she was irrational, "said Shibly.
Since fleeing to the Kurdish-run refugee camp in Syria, Muthana has had to borrow cell phones and contact with her lawyers and family has been sporadic. Shibly was initially able to communicate with Muthana in Syria through WhatsApp, the encrypted social-messaging platform.
He said that when Muthana was still in Hoover jihadist recruiters were able to influence her after infiltrating her online chat groups. Shibly said these recruiters isolated Muthana, limiting her communications with friends and family and not counting on the Islamic Center in Hoover.
"They knew the mosque would have helped get away from them," he said, a characterization of events that Muthana confirmed in Syria.
"All my conversations and contacts were online," said Muthana, who was recalled again and again online that it was "her duty" to join ISIS 'caliphate.
Freedom in a cell phone
After high school, Muthana began studying business at the University of Alabama.
"I remember her saying she felt rebellious once. , for going to a boy's house, "said Youngblood, who recorded the video of Muthana performing the skit about 9/11.
By 2014, Muthana had secretly withdrawn from college, using tuition money to buy a plane ticket to Turkey. Then, like most other western recruits to ISIS, she with someone in a hotel lobby in Turkey who smuggled here across the border to Syria.
"There was me and bunch of Russians in the car. We'd keep changing into different vehicles every now and then to be caught, "Muthana said, describing that time.
Eventually, she reached Raqqa at the time ISIS capital, and later, its last stronghold.
Muthana was taken to the "House of Women" in Raqqa, a tightly guarded building that she said contained "what seemed like a 100 women and a 100 kids." The building's windows were always shut, its doors always locked.
"When confronted by reality, I was confused and shocked," she said in Syria.
Both of her ISIS fighter husbands, including Adam's father who was killed when Muthana was seven months pregnant, died on the battlefield against US-led coalition forces. 19659005] Meanwhile, she was given a job.
Muthana started using her account now suspended Twitter account to spread ISIS propaganda and anti-American messages: "There are so many Aussies and here, but where are the Americans," she wrote in one message. 19659005] In another message, they posted a photo of several passports, including an American one, and wrote: "Bonfire soon, no need for these anymore."
By November 2018 – more than four years into her time with ISIS – the situation for Muthana in Syria had soured. She contacted Shibly, the Florida-based attorney whose help she had earlier spurned. With the U.S. and its allies in Syria on the verge of reclaiming most of ISIS territory, "Muthana was looking for a way out." "Attempting to flee was basically signing your death warrant," she said in Syria.
Shibly put Muthana in touch with Swift, and ex-US. Navy officer who has been in legal circles with his defense of Salim Ahmed Hamdan, Osama bin Laden's alleged driver and the first detainee indicted at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
"She felt she may have ruined her life … but she didn't want to ruin (Adam's), "Swift recalled Muthana counting him in one of their initial WhatsApp conversations.
He customs here that U.S. Pat. prosecutors probably had a sealed indictment against her on terrorism-related charges, and the only thing he could do was help her surrender.
In a letter to her family in February, Muthana described herself as "naive, angry and arrogant" when she decided to travel to Syria. "During my years in Syria, I would see and experience a way of life and the terrible effects of war, which changed me. Seeing bloodshed up close changed. Motherhood changed me. See how different society could be compared to the main America I was born and raised in changed. "Muthana added in the letter that she was willing to serve jail time and wanted to help the radicalize other extremists who had fallen under ISIS 'sway.
She fled to Roj Camp with Adam in December 2018 as "ISIS was crumbling," she said.
It was a journey that involved crossing front lines and traversing landmine-filled territory. They arrived unscathed, but there was a new problem. The Trump administration didn't want here.
"I have instructed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and he fully agrees, not to allow Hoda Muthana back into the Country!" Trump tweeted shortly after she wrote her family.
Muthana finds this hard to accept.
"I am the one who has to live with my foolish and rash teenage decision for the rest of my life. What's inside my mind is torture enough," she said in the camp. "People believe I should be in jail but I've been doing time since I got to Syria."
"She's a terrorist"
Hoda Muthana in class at Hoover High School in 2011. (Photo: Liam Youngblood)
In the legal case, the State Department of argues Muthana never qualified for U.S. citizenship because, although her father left his diplomatic post before her birth, the U.S. Government had been notified of its change in status. The Trump administration is still a diplomat, and foreign diplomats are immune from U.S. laws and their children are not granted automatic U.S. citizenship at birth.
Swift, Muthana's Texas-based lawyer, said that's absurd.
The family has provided documents from the U.N. showing Ahmed Muthana was terminated from his diplomatic job before his daughter's October 1994 birth, and the U.S. has twice issued Muthana and American passport based on those records.
The stakes in this case, Swift said, are "far greater than Hoda Muthana."
It could impact how the U.S. determines citizenship, he said. If the Trump administration can unilaterally strip Americans of their citizenship, that threatens the rights of all U.S. citizens, Muthana's father argues in his lawsuit against the Trump administration.
In March, a federal judge denied Swift's request for expedited consideration of the family's case, ruling Muthana did not face irreparable harm by danger by waiting in the refugee camp as her case proceeds at the normal pace.
Both Trump and Pompeo have legalized their views on the matter.
"She's a terrorist," Pompeo told USA TODAY last month. "She puts American soldiers' lives at risk. You ask the family members, those soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines all over the world, who were serving, trying to take the threat from radical Islamic terrorism … this woman chose to use her life to try and kill those people. "
However, Sen. Doug Jones, D-Alabama, attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, said that by not bringing Muthana back to the U.S. for prosecution, the trump administration would effectively give here a "get-out-of-jail-free card."
"We have a history in this country trying to send strong messages that if you commit crimes against the people of the United States, you come back and face the music. "
The State Department's attorneys have until mid-April to respond to the family's lawsuit, and the judge could decide the case this summer.
Back in Hoover, Muthana's classmates remain mystified. They've got a lot of texts, photos and videos from high school, searching for some sort of ISIS.
Also, widespread disagreement about whether the Hoda Muthana they all thought they knew was the chance to return home, despite likely jail time.
"Even some of my more conservative friends have been struggling with this. They knew here, knew her as a person, "Youngblood said. "Seeing the president tweet about your high school classmate is surreal." At Roj Camp, Muthana fears ISIS sympathizers may try to harm her for disowning the terrorists. "I don't feel safe. I expect retaliation from any side," she said.
USA TODAY's Hjelmgaard reported from London, Hughes from Hoover, Ala., And Shesgreen from Washington, D.C .; Al Faour reported from Roj, Syria.
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