Deager Letterman knows how to make a splash. Over three seasons of his Netflix interview series My next guest needs no introduction– whose latest falls on Wednesday – the former Sent show host landed a pretty famous guest for each premiere episode.
First came former President Barack Obama in early 2018, giving his most in-depth camera interview since leaving office for the long-bearded Letterman. Last year, season two opened with a burning sit-down with Kanye West, who both said he felt “bullied” by liberals for supporting Trump and admitted he had never voted in his life. “Then you have nothing to say about this,”
Now it’s the reality show’s fashion-driven fashion mogul’s turn to join Letterman on stage for yet another fascinating conversation about opening season three.
Letterman begins the interview, which was recorded early this year before the coronavirus pandemic began, by admonishing the Kardashian clan to arrive late at the theater. “Oh for Christ’s sake, show time is not on the ticket?” he asks jokingly, while Kris Jenner, Kourtney Kardashian and Khloe Kardashian archive. An empty spot next to Jenner is soon occupied by an even later Kanye West.
The interview itself begins with genuinely curious questions from Letterman about hair extensions, before the host actually submits some sort of excuse to make fun of Keeps up with the Kardashians in his Sent show monologues back in the day. “Well, here we are, and we are not laughing now,” he says, pointing to the overwhelming success her family has achieved. He also rejects the whole notion that Kardashian is “famous for being famous” because he admits that there is a certain skill involved in making a show like their work.
Then things move quickly towards more substantive issues, including her father’s role in the OJ Simpson trial – she still will not say whether she believes he is guilty of respecting his children – and Kardashian’s recent crusade as a spokesman for prison reform. Which, of course, leads to her unlikely alliance with President Donald Trump.
“Hopefully, I’m working with the White House for the next several administrations and helping them with squeezing,” Kardashian explains as a picture appears on screen of her with Alice Johnson, the woman whose life sentence she personally persuaded the president to commute in. the oval office with Trump.
Clearly uncomfortable with the notion of helping Trump’s image, Letterman then asks, “But do you feel that what is being done on behalf of judicial reform now, through this current administration, in any way allows balance between democracy left in a viability corridor?”
It’s a terribly worded, meaningless question that elicits the only logical response from his guest that answers, “Well, I have no idea what you just said.”
After the laughter and applause dies down, Letterman tries another blow. “I’m grateful for what you do, but it does not make me feel better with the current administration,” he says. But as she has done repeatedly over the past few years, Kardashian refuses to say a bad word about the man in the White House and only tells him, “I understand that.”
She will not even tell Letterman who she is voting for in the presidential election, sitting in silence as he presses her with, “I know who I am voting for.” Although the interview was recorded before Joe Biden had locked in the Democratic nomination, and before Kanye West officially threw his MAGA hat in the ring, the obvious implication is the one who has the best chance of beating Trump.
“Trust me, everyone called me and said, ‘You dare not step into the White House, otherwise your reputation is done,'” Kardashian said, arguing that it was a small price to pay to save lives. people who would otherwise die in prison.
“But look, your good work is overwhelming,” Letterman admits. “It is a positive force that diminishes what I consider to be unacceptable behavior by the president.”
“Trust me, everyone called me and said, ‘You dare not step into the White House, otherwise your reputation is done.’”
– Kim Kardashian West
Instead of agreeing that such “unacceptable behavior” exists, Kardashian says only that she is “extremely grateful” for the administration’s work on criminal law reform and will “remain focused” on what she can accomplish.
“Why don’t I feel that way? Maybe I’m not as good a person as you? Letterman asks in response before realizing that he may have reached a dead end and moving on to other topics. Their conversation culminates in a truly terrifying account of the 2016 robbery in Paris, in which Kardashian says she was sure she was going to die.
Over the course of the hour, Letterman’s obvious devotion to Kardashian is evident. In the end, he tells her that she has “come out on the right side of everything.” But he is also clearly concerned about her outright refusal to criticize Trump, whom he has known for decades should never have gained the power of the president.
Months after their interview, Alice Johnson appeared as a featured speaker at the Republican National Conference. But while she vehemently thanked the president for commuting his sentence, she in particular refused to approve him for another term. Like Kardashian, Johnson told CNN’s Jake Tapper that she was “focused” on this narrow mission and clearly did not want to say anything that could destroy Trump’s ego.
As a star of the reality show, Kardashian knows that Trump cares much more about suffering than he does about actually helping people, so she would not reveal even the slightest hint of disapproval. Letterman has become a world-class interviewer in his new longer format, but even he could not get her to break.