But Trumpism is the Republican party. Isn't Graham simply doing what conservative Republicans want in your state?
We haven't had a graduate drive against Lindsey since he first ran, who can echo these issues and articulate them to voters. That's why I think we have a shot. South Carolina is changing, reverse migration is taking place. Many of the black people who used to be in Ohio and Chicago and all those places they come home to the south. You see it in Atlanta, and Charleston, and Charlotte, and across the south. You see the explosion of the Latin population.
You have to do both.
But I think of midterms, where several candidates across the country made this argument: Stacey Abrams, Andrew Gillum, Beto O & # 39; Rourke. Everyone lost. Why can you do what they can't do?
Well, I think Abrams actually won.
I think I understand the state party. And I think I understand the service component. You must show, not tell. We must rebuild confidence in these communities. You can't just say you want to do A, B, C or D. They want actions, not just words.
And of course you drive in a presidential year.
Listen, it could affect it. But that was not part of my calculation. For me, people are hurting in South Carolina and for many years I recruited candidates to drive. And then I thought of Dr. Martin Luther King's quote to sit on the sidelines and said, "I just can't sit on the sidelines anymore and change things," I have to do it.
Last question. I continue to come back to this: Isn't Graham's approval rating higher since embracing Trump? The president is still popular in the red states. How do you overcome it?
You talk to people in their heart and their intestines and you appeal to them on a human level. That's my work theory. But we need the resources. Previously, the Democrats who have run statewide have not had national support to get it off. I think I'm in a unique situation. And I need to use these national relationships to come home and run South Carolina. I think this is our difference maker.