“Real Time” host Bill Maher and TV personality Sharon Osbourne are blasting culture after her controversial exit from the CBS talk show “The Talk” in the daytime.
During the interview Friday night, Maher lamented how everyone today appears to be “a snitch,” but also confronted Osbourne about accusations that she used derogatory language about former “Talk” co-hosts.
“We do not tolerate bad language anywhere, but I’m just saying – first of all we’m talking about four ladies,” Maher said. “I know men are dogs, and men are dogs …”
“And we are b —- es,”
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Osbourne told Maher that she “never” used the insults alleged by her former “Talk” host Leh Remini, who claimed Osbourne referred to Julie Chen as a “wonton” and “slanted eyes” and called Sara Gilbert a “p — – lick” and “fish eater.”
She insisted that such terms “were not in my vocabulary.”
“It’s unhappy ladies,” Osbourne said.
Maher suggested that any disputes Osbourne might have had with her co-hosts may not have represented her “finest hour.”
“We can not judge everyone by their worst moment,” Maher later told her. “Maybe you lost your cool.”
But he opposed the notion that Osbourne needed to “retrain” instead of simply offering a sincere apology for any offense she may have caused.
“How about, ‘I should not do it, I will not do it again,'” he said. “I mean, you issued an apology for this, and it was like, I read it with the words, ‘I want to retrain myself.’ No, of course we could do better … but this idea and culture now that people have to ‘re-educate’ themselves, indoctrinate themselves …
“I’m sorry, I’m 65, you’re 68. I know who I am! I do not need retraining,” Maher continued. “Do you need retraining? 68, you’ve been all over the world, you’re married to a rock star, you’ve been to all the A-lists and rock ‘n’ roll. need, ‘Race, tell me all about it.’ It’s a fantasy. “
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As for the culture of cancellation, Osbourne insisted on “I want to be okay,” but expressed concern for others who cannot defend themselves.
“I’m a fighter, I’m fine, I’m fine … but what about the people who are cut off from the knees and can not afford to ‘get lessons’ on what is politically correct and how to talk to people? ”she said. “What’s going on with them?
“It’s not fair, it’s not fair because it’s not about being racist, it’s about maybe not knowing what’s right and awake for your language that day because it changes from day to day – what is correct and what is not. “
Maher and Osbourne then piled on Robin DiAngelo’s book, “White Fragility,” which is described as a guide to teaching white people how to be anti-racist – but which critics only say gives more racism.
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“You have two choices, if you’re white, you’re either a racist – or a racist, and you do not know. I’m not down with it,” Maher said. “I know who raised me, I know who my friends are. I know how I have treated people.”
“And this thing is, you can not carpet any race,” Osbourne told Maher. “You can not … there is good and bad in every race. You do not have carpet.”